Wednesday, February 08, 2006

Harper believes Liberal ways are best

Mr. Harper had two options this week to ensure that the Conservative party could win a majority in the next election.

1) Follow in the foot steps of the Liberal party – appoint friends to Senate, bribe other party members with pay raises and power. The brain trust around Harper saw that people in ridings don't vote for your policies but to get local power. Thus appoint someone from Montreal and Vancouver to gain votes in next election.

2) Harper could have decided that people will be impressed when they see him bring in real policies that help them. Forget the political games – live up to your promises and people will respect that. People will vote because they realize that the new Government is not scary, is accountable and functions differently than the Liberal party.

The brain trust around Harper, including Harper, decided Liberal political games are the way to win votes – not policies.


At 8:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Gary. Agreed I think Harper would be much better following option 2.

On the petition side, Now that the petition has reached over 500 signitures. It has been seen off to The PM and and the Leaders of all sitting Parties.

It can be signed at

At 9:04 AM, Blogger philly said...

Gary, ,,You start of with a statement that either of the 2 options will "ensure" a Conservative majority in the next election. I'm not sure I agree.

In your option # 2 please clarify for me.
You say ,"bring in real policies, that people will see help them". Does that mean the policy should have populist support? , or would it be OK to implement a policy that may only have the support of say 35% of the Canadian constituency?
The second part of your option#2 suggests that a promise made must be a promise kept. What if a particular promise is opposed by a vast majority of Canadians?, do you say, "too bad", but I'm keeping my promise.

As to crossing the floor. I live in Brant riding in southern Ontario. The Liberal, Lloyd St.Amand was re-elected here. Last week I urged him to consider moving to the Conservative party, but only on the basis that he can demonstrate that the majority of the constituents in the riding do not oppose such a move.
An elected MP must do whatever is necessary to most effectively represent his riding.

At 9:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you could set up a similar petition with the other 5 turncoats currently serving the Liberals in the HoC. I somehow doubt you will.

At 9:34 AM, Blogger awum said...

On Monday, Mr. Harper and Mr. Emerson provided us with an astounding display of hypocrisy and dishonesty. With their own words on Wednesday's Vancouver Sun front page, they have just added profound arrogance to the list.

Mr. Harper: Our concerns over the health of representative democracy and the ethical standards of our politicians are hardly "superficial criticism." The fact that you can dismiss these so easily is nothing short of frightening. At least when Jean Cretien was arrogant, he was funny about it.

Mr. Emerson: The suggestion that you ran a "non-partisan" campaign is dishonest and self-serving. I can't believe you have the nerve to dismiss the concerns of your constituents by asking them to forget that they voted overwhelmingly for the guy with the red-and-white signs. You told them two weeks ago not to trust Conservative promises. Now you're a Conservative. We should trust you now why?

At 10:36 AM, Blogger Gary McHale said...

Philly - thanks for the post.

1st - in Canada it is very rare for any Prime Minister to received over 50% - our multi-party system makes it almost impossible.

However, I believe the public want elected MPs to do what they promised. I think I would have more respect for a Liberal MP if he did what he said he would do instead of going back on his word.

The PC party brought in GST and free-trade - both rejected by the Liberal Party. Would more Canadians trust MPs more if the Liberal had done what they promised to do - which was to get rid of GST?

The real policies I talked about is the fact that since 1992 there are been a grass root movement to change the Conservative party - it was policies that drove this movement. It is those policies that got us to where we are and it was those policies that Harper claimed for years to support.

Canadians were told these policies throughout the election - clearly laid out day after day.

Clearly Harper wants a majority - now the question is how. You can act like a Liberal -appointing friends, changing your views to gain votes, bringing promises after getting in power - or Lead by example.

Canadians aspect leadership while hoping for a new form of governing. Harper choose to follow the Liberal way - plain and simple.

It is my view that Harper could follow his 5 priorities without appointing friends or bribing Liberal MPs and Canadians would respect that. Since it is impossible to run an group of people (400,000+ employees as well) without some problem arising I do not see the point of starting off on the wrong foot – you going to need the grass root support sometime soon.

Harper, like other politicians, believes the grass roots have no options but to support him (what are we going to do – vote Liberal) therefore their views are quickly overlooked for a few possible votes from non-conservative people.

At 10:40 AM, Blogger Gary McHale said...

Thanks Anonymous for proving my point.

"Maybe you could set up a similar petition with the other 5 turncoats currently serving the Liberals in the HoC."

I hold to my Conservative view of government being accountable to the people. I hold to the Conservative view against appointing Senators and 'floor crossers' (see Conservative bill from Nov. 2, 2005) and I am the turncoat.

Well, Well, Well - I have always believed that Liberal minded people attack the person not the policies and you just proved to me that there most be a lot of so-called Conservative who attack the person as well - calling me a name (turncoat) really supports your view.

At 11:02 AM, Anonymous Graham Sanders, Toronto said...

I agree with your point of view. Talk about playing right into the hands of your opponents! Given the small size of the new cabinet, with lots of potential candidates left over, what on earth was Harper thinking? Is Emerson a Superman? I think not! And an unelected minister? Mind boggling. I've voted Pc, Reform and now CPoC for years, looking for change and what do we get? More of the corrupt same. It is soooo disappointing.

At 2:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

a crying shame.

What a skeeming bastard.

At 2:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary, apparently you didn't understand my message. I didn't call you a turncoat, I quiped there are currently 5 turncoats serving in the Liberal caucus in the HoC. Should they not be just as deserving of MSM and blogger backlash? Of course they should if you don't believe in floor crossing. Anyone claiming to be as outraged at this who wasn't as outraged as when Stronach, Brison, Lapierre, Martin or Mathews crossed is simply a hypocrit.

At 4:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if one of Emerson constituents could sue him for fraud? If so, I really hope someone does...

At 10:14 PM, Blogger Miles Lunn said...

The five turncoats in the Liberal caucus at least won as Liberals in the most recent election so even if what they did was wrong, they made up for it. The riding of Vancouver-Kingsway is an NDP/Liberal riding so there is no way in Hell in David Emerson could win as a Conservative.

Philly - In the case of Brant, the Conservatives came within 600 votes of winning so Lloyd St. Amand would probably have a decent shot at winning as a Conservative if he stepped down and ran as a Conservative in a by-election. In Vancouver-Kingsway, the Conservatives came in a distant third, not a close second, so big difference here.

At 1:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 1:07 PM, Anonymous said...
Speaking of Joe Peschisolido, here's what was said at that time:

"In the end, it will serve to remind Canadians that politics is the second oldest profession, and that from time to time, through actions such as yours, it bears a striking resemblance to the first." -- James Moore.

"He's an adult and he's making a choice, but he's going against his own principles." -- John Reynolds

"I always said if you change parties you should have a by-election and let the people decide. It would have been the honourable thing to do, and I hope tomorrow he enjoys sitting in the back rows." -- John Reynolds again


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